Hmmm, I always thought that age-old line was "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Apparently that's not true in West Vancouver.
"Don't Refrain if You Can Gain" seems to be more applicable..
$200 bucks? Heck, go 72 mph in a 65 zone here and you'll be penalized more than that...
Here's a story from CTV British Columbia where they tell the tale of a PIN Pad thief who got fined $200 bucks and has to leave town by "high noon." Unbelievable. I've reproduced the comments from their site, and as you can read, people are getting fed up with these types of crimes. As I've posted in the past...why rob a bank? That's 20 years...this is $200 bucks. If he didn't get caught "red-handed" what would his take be? IMHO, the judge got this one "way wrong." At least the message he's sending is...
"Don't Refrain if You Can Gain" seems to be more applicable..
$200 bucks? Heck, go 72 mph in a 65 zone here and you'll be penalized more than that...
Here's a story from CTV British Columbia where they tell the tale of a PIN Pad thief who got fined $200 bucks and has to leave town by "high noon." Unbelievable. I've reproduced the comments from their site, and as you can read, people are getting fed up with these types of crimes. As I've posted in the past...why rob a bank? That's 20 years...this is $200 bucks. If he didn't get caught "red-handed" what would his take be? IMHO, the judge got this one "way wrong." At least the message he's sending is...
Here's the story: CTV British Columbia- PIN pad thief gets $200 fine and deportation order - CTV News, Shows and Sports -- Canadian Television
PIN pad thief gets $200 fine and deportation order
Updated: Fri Jan. 16 2009 18:32:54 Darcy Wintonyk, ctvbc.ca
Police in West Vancouver have caught a PIN pad thief red-handed -- and kicked him out of the province. On Tuesday night, the owner of a Park Royal area juice bar called police after someone stole the PIN pad from the counter. He had just serving two customers and noticed that the device was missing.
Editor's Note: Notice the pic of the PIN Pad (below right) with a steel tether to prevent it from getting stolen...
Police apprehended the men shortly after near Marine Dr. and 14th St. after being alerted by a transit operator. After a brief investigation, police recovered the pad from a rental car parked nearby. On Thursday, 23-year-old Quebec native Jonathan Ramirez-Dionne pled guilty to theft under $5,000 in a North Vancouver courtroom.
"He was sentenced to one year probation and a $200 fine," says Const. Jeff Palmer.
But that's not all. The judge has also given the unusual order for him to leave the area. "An interesting aspect of his probationary requirement the judge has ordered him to leave British Columbia by four o'clock Friday afternoon and he's not to be found in British Columbia during the term of his probation."
The owner of the juice bar doesn't think the penalty is heavy enough. "It's funny because if I was caught speeding, it would be a bigger fine, and you know it's less of a heinous crime per say, and they get $200 which is a little bit bizarre," says Blake Goddard.
Police advise merchants to securely attach pin pads to counters at and to train staff to regularly check the devices. This isn't the first time Park Royal mall has been hit by debit thieves. Last March, police warned customers to change their PIN numbers after two La Senza's and an Aldo store had their PIN pads stolen.
PIN pads don't normally record PIN numbers, but the devices can be modified to take in personal information. In August 2007, phony PIN pads turned up at four retail stores, including and thieves used the stolen information to withdraw money from hundreds of accounts.
"He was sentenced to one year probation and a $200 fine," says Const. Jeff Palmer.
But that's not all. The judge has also given the unusual order for him to leave the area. "An interesting aspect of his probationary requirement the judge has ordered him to leave British Columbia by four o'clock Friday afternoon and he's not to be found in British Columbia during the term of his probation."
The owner of the juice bar doesn't think the penalty is heavy enough. "It's funny because if I was caught speeding, it would be a bigger fine, and you know it's less of a heinous crime per say, and they get $200 which is a little bit bizarre," says Blake Goddard.
Police advise merchants to securely attach pin pads to counters at and to train staff to regularly check the devices. This isn't the first time Park Royal mall has been hit by debit thieves. Last March, police warned customers to change their PIN numbers after two La Senza's and an Aldo store had their PIN pads stolen.
PIN pads don't normally record PIN numbers, but the devices can be modified to take in personal information. In August 2007, phony PIN pads turned up at four retail stores, including and thieves used the stolen information to withdraw money from hundreds of accounts.
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Don
I like that the judge told him to get out of BC. I think 200 dollars is pretty light as a fine for this type of crime though.
Pat in the Valley
What kind of justice is this - first he breaks the law, can steal potentially mega bucks and all he gets is the boot from the Province. When will the Justice System finally get it? and hand out appropriate sentencing and not just another "slap on the wrist".
Christine
That is ridiculous! $200 fine, what a joke! How will we know that the guy is actually leaving the Province and who is going to keep track of him?
Ashley
What a joke that is! Apparently in BC and in Canada it pays to lead a life of crime. Wasn't too impressed to be watching this story on the 6pm news on CTV and watched the report show the viewers exactally how to remove it. I know its not rocket science but come on..
C
Umm... I agree with your statement "PIN pads don't normally record PIN numbers, but the devices can be modified to take in personal information." but your on-air story is misleading viewers that PIN pads ARE storing information when they DO NOT. Only counterfeit PIN pads store/steal information.
Aden
Thats awsome thats what you get when you steal from our province Au revouir frenchy
Bangedup
what a joke - time to change the laws
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